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Joshua November 5, 2008 1:22am
I'm a little nervous about California state ballot props. Right now it looks like prop 8 (constitutional gay marriage ban) is pretty sure to pass with (53% in favor with 26% of precincts reporting). prop 4 (constitutional abortion ban for minors without parental or spousal consent, yes, you read that right; minors would still be able to have abortions if their SPOUSES consent, and only after 72 hours' notification), is pretty evenly balanced.

why are these even appropriate to put in a constitution? this is a perversion of law.

Comments: 12
Anthony - (November 5, 2008 1:29am)
yeah, the drive to cram this junk into constitutions (state or federal) is pretty awful (not to mention very un-conservative).
i've been watching Prop. 8's numbers for about an hour and a half now. the numbers aren't good, but they are improving (that is, the gap is narrowing). given that the exit polls all look better, and the rural precincts tend to report first, i'm still hopeful.
Anthony - (November 5, 2008 1:33am)
no sooner do i say that than the exit poll numbers take a dive.
i'm going to bed.
Joshua - (November 5, 2008 1:50am)
I wouldn't trust any fluctuation you observe in either exit polls or the actually reported totals; they're all within the noise of the counting.

what does appear significant is the 7-10 point lead that the marriage ban has had since early on in the evening.

at least there's still hope for prop 4.

Carrie - (November 5, 2008 8:01am)
I am sure that is where it does come from. But I am very liberal on abortion issues. I think we should have more birth defect screens and give women more opportunity to stop unwanted pregnancy. Life is hard enough when you have a good support group, your parents are financially sound, and you have all your mental faculties.
Joshua - (November 5, 2008 1:24pm)
the good news so far: 3 million absentee ballots and provisional ballots have not yet been counted, while 10 million people (= 95% of precincts) have been counted. given that prop 8 is 52% yes, and prop 4 is 48% yes, they both still have opportunity to fail (maybe more likely with 4 than 8). let's keep our fingers crossed.
Cynthia - (November 5, 2008 5:41pm)
carrie - so basically your arguing for eugenics? are you dorking serious? i would not object to a person's (not all pregnant people are women folks) decision to end a pregnancy for any reason. but you basically just completely discounted the value of life for people with various kinds of disabilities. it's unbelievable to me that you would frame it that way.
Cynthia - (November 5, 2008 5:41pm)
um, why did cosym just change f*cking to "dorking"?
Anthony - (November 5, 2008 9:19pm)
hrm. when did you notice it? it's "dorking" in the database, and i can't find any sign of ingress filtering in cosym's code. did you ever see it on the page with original text?
Joshua - (November 5, 2008 11:41pm)
dorking Fucking fUcking FUCKing FUCKING dorkING FUCKING! dorking!
Joshua - (November 5, 2008 11:42pm)
that was a test. everything was originally spelt "FUCKING." only capitalization changed.
Joshua - (November 5, 2008 11:43pm)
and, it was already filtered on the preview before i hit "post"
Anthony - (November 6, 2008 1:18am)
well, i've found where this happens. aside from smiley faces and turning newlines into the HTML version, changing the string "FUCK" to "dork" is the only substitution cosym makes (and it only does it with lower case).
it would be a trivial change to remove the substitution, but i've not done so. for now, if you really want to FUCK, you'll have to do it loudly.
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